Curse

Yukito Kunisaki · May 27, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Well now, if we didn't have to rely on energy from critical hits to maul our foes into the dirt, we can use it for other things correct? After some quick brainstorming, I've come up with this idea.

We need a humoungous dps that can be considered a prolonged spike. [oxymoron anyone? lol]

Since Way of the Empty Palm allows free Off-hand+Dual Attacks, we need the fastest recharging attacks to make it count.

What's that lead to?

We can use the energy heavy hexes and spells to keep damage at a great high and if we still need energy, you can modifiy the build accordingly.

Self-Heals galore!

The expense? Loss of teleporting perhaps...

12+1+3 Dagger Mastery [w00t]
7+1 Critical Strikes [energy breaking point]
10+1 Deadly Arts
rest to shadow arts + 1

Golden Phoenix Strike
Horns of the Ox
Falling Spider
Repeating Strike
Way of the Empty Palm {E}
Siphon Speed / Impale
Expose Defenses / Way of Perfection / Shadow Refuge
Plague Touch / Res Signet

Ok, so we lose out on teleporting, you can rearrange as needed to squeeze in your precious teleports if needed but for each gain, there's a loss right?

As you can see, half of your skill bar will need no energy as long as you don't get shattered enchantment. The elite lasts long enough to have a downtime of 14s. so it's not glaring, but it's not exactly repetitive/redundant. MAKE your dps burst count!

The situation is win-win in that you have a good repetitive snare and you'll never be blocked for a good 8 seconds. [wait 2 more seconds to do Expose again] Of course, if someone stuffs your repeating strike, the whole build is down the toilet. [then again, in any assassin build, if one attack is dead, usually the whole attack stream dies.]

If the enemy didn't bring any anti-melee hate, like anti-caster only mesmers, heh heh, then you won't have to cast Expose Defenses and blam, you've got them right where you want them!

Running Impale can lead to a spike if needed, but that's just at your discretion.

But the idea is machinegun for 0energy.

Any idea on how to make this last longer?

shinja · May 28, 2006, 01:45 AM // 01:45

I like your thought process here, looks very viable. Gonna give it a few runs and try it out.

Lambentviper · May 28, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

Ill be sure to try it out and leave my report

sinican · May 28, 2006, 05:28 AM // 05:28

you got a good build here do this...

2-3 sup runes can boost you more in the ablities

with 3 sup runes Valk Armor Sup Vigor rune +30 hp wep you'll still come out with 365 health

give ya higher refuge so use it

and id throw on sharpen daggers for the bleed

so now u got kd poison and bleed wtih unlimited attacking ability for14+ seconds

other addative id use would be vipers

so u throw up sharpen
way of empty palm

attack for free 14 seconds

viper

run refuge...

im so gonna try this

fallot · May 28, 2006, 12:48 PM // 12:48

Not going to comment on the build itself, but these points need to be considered.

-The first one, you have already mentioned. Way of the Empty palm's downtime. That leaves you not only unable to use Repeating Strikes as often, it also means that GPS now relies entirely on Shadow Refuge to function (that or another enchant, unless you decide to keep Expose Defenses). You could of course get an ally to lay an enchant on you, but that is in itself a glaring weakness in a build that seems to be heavy on self-sufficiency (judging by the skills you use).

-The greatest benefit of Falling Spider is that it can be used to string two Dual Attacks together.

-Enchants last longer with 20% enchant handles

.

-Repeating Strikes means no double strikes, so the difference between auto-attacks and using this skill may not be so great (do the math yourself

). Additionally, you know full well what happens if it misses...

-That was indeed an oxymoron.

-I was brought to realize that this forum is for posting PvE builds specifically, which is why I now decline to comment on any.

Raiin Maker · May 28, 2006, 12:50 PM // 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lambentviper

Ill be sure to try it out and leave my report

same... i gotta go get some skills now.

Mistical miss · May 28, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

secondary ranger could allow serpents quickness to lower the downtime without putting points in wilderness survival... its but an idea

sinican · May 28, 2006, 02:17 PM // 14:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by fallot

Not going to comment on the build itself, but these points need to be considered.

-The first one, you have already mentioned. Way of the Empty palm's downtime. That leaves you not only unable to use Repeating Strikes as often, it also means that GPS now relies entirely on Shadow Refuge to function (that or another enchant, unless you decide to keep Expose Defenses). You could of course get an ally to lay an enchant on you, but that is in itself a glaring weakness in a build that seems to be heavy on self-sufficiency (judging by the skills you use).

-The greatest benefit of Falling Spider is that it can be used to string two Dual Attacks together.

-Enchants last longer with 20% enchant handles

.

-Repeating Strikes means no double strikes, so the difference between auto-attacks and using this skill may not be so great (do the math yourself

). Additionally, you know full well what happens if it misses...

-That was indeed an oxymoron.

-I was brought to realize that this forum is for posting PvE builds specifically, which is why I now decline to comment on any.

Way of the empty palm alows NO ENERGY cost to all OFFHAND and DUAL attacks...

the entire attack chain is made up of offhand and dual attacks that means that you use pheonix ox spider then repeating over and over untill pheonix is availble again to restard the knockdown and poison again with high dmg...

this build does not need dbl strikes

Way of the Empty Palm {Elite} - Enchantment Spell 5/1/30
For 5...17 seconds, off-hand and dual attacks cost no energy.

you can get 17 seconds of completely free attacks with this

and if you miss viper and get out...

i didnt see anywhere where it was stated this was a solo build or a PvE only build... this build could work for both... and nicely as well... anything break you viper out wait for recharge to re-enter

fallot · May 28, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinican

Way of the empty palm alows NO ENERGY cost to all OFFHAND and DUAL attacks...

Did I say it didn't ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinican

the entire attack chain is made up of offhand and dual attacks that means that you use pheonix ox spider then repeating over and over untill pheonix is availble again to restard the knockdown and poison again with high dmg...

Captain Obvious to the rescue ? Where did I say otherwise ? I brought up everything that I felt was relevant in my first post. Will you please not quote a post you haven't even read ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinican

i didnt see anywhere where it was stated this was a solo build or a PvE only build...

Which is the problem, this is a PvE build forum. However, the following extract implies that it is a PvP build:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki

If the enemy didn't bring any anti-melee hate, like anti-caster only mesmers, heh heh, then you won't have to cast Expose Defenses and blam, you've got them right where you want them!

Rikimaru · May 28, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Jesus, Way of the Empty Palm + Expose Defenses + Repeating strike... I can't believe I never thought of that. That'd be insane damage.

TheGuildWarsPenguin · May 28, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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fallot · May 28, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

Just to be clear, I'm not saying this post should be moved or deleted. I've been guilty of posting RA builds here myself before I realized there isn't a place for them on this board... rightly so IMO.

Lambentviper · May 28, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

wow, this is for PvE only? it should say that somewhere (if it hasnt already) almost all my submission are for RA and TA. Whenever i post builds in the RA thread they move em here

anyways.... You say it would be insane damage. Well yes, it does do nice damage..but Repeating Strike takes like 1 second to use, so its not very fast damage. Any monk with signet of devotion could outheal it :/ this is of course saying it hits. If it misses, well your screwed